basically, his defense team would be stupid to know you wouldn't get it to al-qaeda. but more importantly, he will spend a long time in jail. >> do you think he should spend a lot of time in jail? >> oh, definitely, they want to send a message, some of us thinks those who leak information to wikileaks, some of us think exactly the opposite, the judge will lock him up for a long time. >> what do you think, chris? is he a hero, or a word that rhymes with hero? >> i think it would be rough to be with his cell mate. >> you know what? they don't, people still see him as a hero, they do. >> i know. military prison -- >> he is going to be doing meanwhi military hard time, it won't be easy -- >> like in the dirty dozen. >> yeah, but nobody as pretty as lee marvin. well, a lot of people say while they obviously agree they are not surprised it came up since you had nothing to do with the case. >> well, it stands to reason, because remember what the government said about me? that guy works with the government. this guy did something bad. and he is getting what he deserves. i am